What is the difference between liberal and conservative Catholics? I'm thinking it's about authority. How do we know truth and how do we judge what is good? On what authority can we rely?
Imagine the interior life as an ocean journey, navigating your ship from one island of solid ground to a new and better one as you go. Some people find a continent and settle for life. Some want to search the whole archipelago and then set sail for the next continent.
Or imagine jumping across a wide flooding stream from rock to solid rock, the prospect of falling in and being swept away always on your mind.
Or imagine climbing a steep rock face, finding sure handholds and toeholds, on your way to the vista at the top.
The metaphors are about solid ground, the sure places a person has to find to live or to move forward. I'm thinking that no matter how unreflective a person might be, or how unarticulated the fundamentals are, to be sane we have some trusted ground under foot. It's the sense of who we are, what it is all about.
The Catholic Church, in its current institutional format and culture, is like one continent, a big old solid piece of ground. It says you can count on its slow sifting of what humans know and its declarations of truth and goodness to guide your whole life. It claims divine guidance for itself in that process of assuring its members of the true and the good. You can rely on its authority. Conform your thoughts, obey, and you are safe.
If, instead of looking to the current Catholic teaching authority, you look to the 2000 year tradition of Christianity for footholds and toeholds,solid ground to stand on, you will have to make your own study, your own judgments, or join a Christian community to identify with, to depend on for guidance to solid ground.
But if your life's journey has taken you to other cultural continents, other islands big and small, you may have a different perspective on what is true and good, what is solid ground to identify yourself on. What authority do you rely on for your identity, for judging what is true and good?
You piece together an identity from all you have seen and heard, you keep questioning and listening to the serious voices around you, you act from your best judgment of the moment. The authority is within yourself within the human community. You could say the divine guidance comes through humanity as a whole in its slow and painful evolution toward some end, the truth and goodness of which we only hope for.
Is a person who calls him/herself a liberal Catholic a person who acknowledges a cultural formation within the Catholic tradition, and the deep wisdom in the tradition, but who, nevertheless, does not rely on the authority of the pope and bishops for a final judgment about what is true or good? Or maybe it's a relative matter: no one relies for final judgment on the pope and bishops, but "conservative" Catholics want to affirm that solid ground exists in institutional form somewhere in the world.
What do you think?
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curious....why do you see the RC church as a "SOLID" place...like a continent, etc.? (I'm thinking of those polar bears standing on their tippytoes on last chunks of the polar ice mass.) solidity, starting with the physical realm, is an illusion, no?
ReplyDeleteXtremeEnglish sent me -- she told me to tell you that!!! And any friend of hers . . . you know the rest. Welcome to the blogosphere!
ReplyDeleteFrom what I've read so far, I think I'm going to read here with great interest. I don't consider myself a liberal Catholic -- I'm not sure I like those people. I call myself a renegade Catholic as is my style in most things in life.
Again, welcome -- and in the words of Arnie: I'll be back!!!!
Well, thanks, Xtreme English and Kay Dennison. I guess you are right, XE, that at the quantum level nothing is solid, but you'll have to admit that mountains and continents have some molecular stability. What I was trying to say is the the Catholic Church, as well as many people within it, see it as having authority to define truth and moral rightness. Many of us who call ourselves Catholic do not recognize that authority. It's a radical division, don't you think?
ReplyDeleteI'd be interested to know if you have some bottom-line truths that you live by? Experiential truths if not propositional ones. Anyway, thanks for talking. Paula
Well, thanks, Xtreme English and Kay Dennison. I guess you are right, XE, that at the quantum level nothing is solid, but you'll have to admit that mountains and continents have some molecular stability. What I was trying to say is that the Catholic Church, as well as many people within it, see it as having authority to define truth and moral rightness. Many of us who call ourselves Catholic do not recognize that authority. It's a radical division, don't you think?
ReplyDeleteI'd be interested to know if you have some bottom-line truths that you live by? Experiential truths if not propositional ones. Anyway, thanks for talking. Paula
re your question about having some bottom-line truths to live by. whoa. according to this discussion, maybe, no.
ReplyDeletebut if i have one truth that i live by, it's that i SHOULD have one. but how are these? is this what you mean?
*fearlessly be who you are
*don't lie
*we already have everything we need to be enlightened (from Pema Chodron)
*what most you fear is where the gold is
*it'll all work out in the end
Wow, XE, I think those are some great truths. The one about where the gold is implies that we have to go in and mine it despite the fear. Tough.
ReplyDeleteIn order to get up in the morning I need some kind of a grand narrative, where the universe came from, where it is going, what my place in it is. Maybe not everyone needs that, but I think that is what religion is about. People have been making up grand narratives to make it all make sense. My answer is pretty general. I rely on the belief that whatever force is moving the universe project forward is a benevolent one. What Jesus thought too, right? Is that the same as your last one "it'll all work out in the end?"
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ReplyDeleteHi Paula,
ReplyDeleteGreat blog! I'm so glad you have your own corner of cyberspace - in addition to your insightful contributions to The Progressive Catholic Voice!
The questions you raise need to be heard and discussed - perhaps now more than ever - in our Church and society.
Peace,
Michael
Thanks, Michael. It clears the mind, doesn't it? Paula
ReplyDeleteXE sent me here as well. I'm afloat - to continue the metaphor. I don't see the church as anything but quicksand, perpetuating nothing but secrecy and greed. It is after all, run by men.
ReplyDeleteHi, Speak(er). I know what you mean about the Church. What looks like a continent to some folks looks like a quicksand bog to others. I take it you mean by "afloat" bouyantly depending on yourself for direction and not wind tossed on the ocean. Sounds like a great place to be. Paula
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